MSNBC: Law Makes ILLEGAL Immigrant A Crime

No I’m not making this up, MSNBC and the brainniacs that read the Liberal Talking Points   err I mean news, didn’t know that the word ILLEGAL means that someone had committed a crime.  So news flash MSNBC it has always been a crime to be an ILLEGAL Immigrant and it wasn’t done with a state law, it is a federal statute. Now I know this is hard for you to understand but stick with me MSNBC, that means its a crime to be an ILLEGAL Immigrant in every state, county, city and town in the USA. Yes even in so called safe haven cities .

However MSNBC is not the only Liberal Propaganda err I mean “news” organization that has a hard time grasping that simple fact, CBS is in the same boat. To read all about it head over to Newsbusters:

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2010/04/27/cbss-smith-hispanics-see-arizona-law-purely-discriminatory#ixzz0mKoh9HZK

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3 responses to “MSNBC: Law Makes ILLEGAL Immigrant A Crime

  1. Montana April 27, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Arizona can pass race base laws, pass Birthers laws, pass no permit conceal weapons laws and the state boycotted Martin Luther King Day, well the rest of the Country can boycott the state of Arizona and spank them where it hurts them the most their pocket book. Their phony patriotism is sickening, they are just racists going by another name. We all know you are just itching to put a sheet on their head? Let’s face it the Republicans had eight years to deal with health care, immigration, climate change and financial oversight and governance and they failed. It appears that the Republican Party is only good at starting wars (two in eight years, with fat contracts to friends of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the continuing line of body bags that keep coming home. The Republicans party will continue turned inward to their old fashion obstructionist party (and their Confederacy appreciation roots) because they continue to allow a small portions (but very loud portion) of their party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” to rule their party. I will admit that this fringe is very good at playing “Follow the Leader” by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the Blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots (they have already acted against doctors that perform abortions). The Birthers and the Tea party crowd think they can scare, intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The world is complicated and people like Hamilton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt believed that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now it’s about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is tragic that the ranks are filled with too many empty suits and the crazy Birthers who have not learned that the way our courts work is that you get a competent lawyer, verifiable facts and present them to a judge, if the facts are real and not half baked internet lies, then, and only then, do you proceed to trial. The Birthers seem to be having a problem with their so called “facts”. Let’s face it no one will take the Birthers seriously until they win a case, but until then, you will continue to appear dumb, crazy or racist, or maybe all three. I heard that Orly Taitz now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC), she wants to re-establish a family values party, that’s like saying that the Catholic Church cares about the welling being of children in their care, too late for that.

  2. boballab April 29, 2010 at 8:29 am

    Nice rant! Heavy on misinformation, mistakes and assumptions, but nice rant. Now lets go through this and fix it.

    Arizona can pass race base laws, pass Birthers laws, pass no permit conceal weapons laws and the state boycotted Martin Luther King Day, well the rest of the Country can boycott the state of Arizona and spank them where it hurts them the most their pocket book.

    Now there is your first mistake based on either misinformation or an assumption. The Arizona law is not raced based. If blue-eyed, blond haired Sven from Sweden is in the US illegally and gets stopped in Arizona this law applies to him as well. Of course this little fact does not fit your preconceived, libprog world view. I wonder if you will show up here after this November’s elections when Dems get it in the shorts, as well as finding out your call for a boycott by your dear leaders not amounting to much.

    Their phony patriotism is sickening, they are just racists going by another name. We all know you are just itching to put a sheet on their head?

    Now here are more assumptions and misinformation on your part. So calling for the enforcement of the nations laws is phony patriotism? So whats next we should do away with the sex offenders lists? The reason I ask is that they are a form of profiling and unlike the illegal immigrant who is continuing to break the law just by being in the country, the sex offender has already paid his debt to society. Or how about this: The cops and the media cannot use or give out descriptions of suspects in crimes. The reason for that is simple, that is another form of “racial profiling”. Think about it when the cops get a description, from a store clerk that has just been robbed, of a “African American male, between the ages of 18 and 25, standing 6’1”, they are not going to be stopping 5’3” 60 year old white women now are they?

    Then of course you make the insinuation that I, and everyone else that supports curbing crime as being white and a member of the KKK. You base this on what? Knowing personally myself and everyone else that holds this positition? So unless you can answer yes to that question you just made a huge erroneous assumption. Unlike you I don’t presume to know what color/race everyone that holds this position is, I can only speak for myself, which is enough to show how wrong your assumption is. You see part of my ancestry is Lenni-Lenape Indian, my wife is Filippino and I got cousins that are half black. So with that background I was able to join the KKK and run around with a pillow case my head obviously.

    Let’s face it the Republicans had eight years to deal with health care, immigration, climate change and financial oversight and governance and they failed. It appears that the Republican Party is only good at starting wars (two in eight years, with fat contracts to friends of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the continuing line of body bags that keep coming home.

    Again more misinformation and showing that because someone doesn’t agree with what you consider problems nor the solutions you advocate that they failed some how. You also show that you are not very good at math or recent history. First lets look at your math, you some how equate G.W. Bush’s two terms as President with 8 years of the GOP running both the Executive and Legislative branches. I know this might come as a shock to you but the Dems took control of the House and the Senate in the 2006 elections, you know 2 years before the end of GW’s Presidency. So that makes 6 years where the GOP had control and unlike Obama, GW didn’t have a 60 seat filibuster proof, majority in the Senate prior to the 2006 election either. You also overlooked the fact that the same companies that benefitted from the Operation Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom under bush was the same companies that Clinton used in his administration. However that fact doesn’t support your cause so you won’t mention that.

    Now lets look at your lack of understanding history. First the US hasn’t fought a war since WWII. Just because some pundit calls something a war it doesn’t make it one. You see the word “war” is a legal and constitutional term when dealing with the US military. Unless congress passes a declaration of war there is no war. Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Desert Storm, Iraqi Freedom and the operations in Afghanistan are not wars. Now with that out of the way lets look at the nitty gritty. You claim the GOP is good at starting these so called wars, but not winning them. Lets check that claim out. The first one is Korea which happened due to a Dem administration’s screwup making it look like the US wouldn’t defend South Korea. This so called war is still technically on going since there was only a cease fire signed between the UN forces and North Korea (Yes it was a UN sanctioned operation). This ending of hostilities was worked out by a GOP administration under Eisenhower. Next we come to Vietnam where JFK sent US Special Forces clear back in 1960 and the troop levels continued to rise under LBJ, both Dem administrations. This “Police Action” finally came to an end 12 years ( which is 3 years longer then the operations in Afghanistan) in 1972 under the GOP administration of Nixon. Grenada was conducted and won under a GOP administration and so was Panama. Desert Storm was a UN sanctioned operation that was led and won under a GOP administration. The documents signed by the Iraqi government at the end of this operation had a special clause in it that allowed the US to resume hostilities at any time after Iraq violated any of the provisions in it. This clause is important when we get to the causes and justification of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Iraqi Freedom could have been conducted legally at any time after Saddam violated the no fly restrictions less then six months after Desert Storm. It also could have been launched every time Saddam refused to let inspectors in during the Clinton years and it most certainly could have been used when Saddam tried to assassinate the Elder Bush. Technically GW didn’t need any authorization from Congress to launch that operation he already had a mandate from the original cease fire accords from 1991, however he did anyway. Also you missed the fact that this operation was finished successfully under a GOP administration as evidenced by the two elections held since then. The only places where the GOP didn’t win or clean up a Dem mess was Somalia where Clinton took the elder Bush’s humanitarian relief mission and try to make it into a “nation” building operation without sufficient force (Remember Blackhawk Down?), Clinton’s Haiti operation where he helped put an overthrown dictator back into power

    In December 1990, the former priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide was elected President in the Haitian general election, winning by more than two thirds of the vote. His 5-year mandate began on 7 February 1991.

    Aristide’s use of paramilitaries caused dissatisfaction, and in August 1991, his government faced a non-confidence vote within the Haitian Chamber of Deputies and Senate. Eighty-three members voted against him, while only eleven members voted in support of his government. In September 1991, Aristide gave a speech in which he encouraged his supporters to kill his critics and endorsed Père Lebrun (necklacing), which he called good-smelling.[45] Three days later, Aristide was overthrown by soldiers and flown into exile. The conservative magazine The American Spectator ran an article that stated that, while living in the United States, he embezzled Haiti’s telecom revenues to a numbered offshore account, and used the money to finance his return.[46] In accordance with Article 149 of Haiti’s Constitution of 1987, Supreme Court Justice Joseph Nerette was named Provisional President and elections were called for December 1991—elections which the international community blocked[citation needed]—and the resulting chaos extended into 1994.

    In 1994, an American team, under the direction of the Clinton Administration, successfully negotiated the departure of Haiti’s military leaders and the peaceful entry of US forces under Operation Uphold Democracy, thereby paving the way for the restoration of Jean-Bertrand Aristide as president.[47] In October 1994, Aristide returned to Haiti to complete his term in office.[48] Aristide disbanded the Haitian army, and established a civilian police force.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti#1990s

    and the continuing operations in Afghanistan.

    So lets recap the Dems started 3 and have a record of 1-3 with a no decision (Afghan). One of the losses is Somalia after coming in after the GOP had a relatively successful humanitarian mission going. The GOP started 5 and have a record of 3-1 with 2 saves of the Dems (Korea and Vietnam). The FYR (Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia) mess the US screwed the pooch in every way but it was mostly a UN/EU operation.

    Now lets look at your laundry list of “problems”, First up Healthcare. You do realize that it was GW Bush that came up with Medicare D? Of course you don’t want to acknowledge that since that isn’t the first step towards Socialist medicine like the Dems want. You know where people die of thirst in the hospital and their healthcare is rationed like the Obama administration recently admitted will happen with this newly passed healthcare law, oh and by the way they admit the GOP was right all along it will cost more and you still don’t get coverage until 2014, OOPS!

    The government’s own Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services has reported that health care costs will rise under President Barack Obama’s health care bill. The unpopular law passed just a month ago through one of the most twisted and corrupt legislative processes the American people have ever seen. And now the government is admitting it will fail in one of its primary objectives: to reduce health care costs for the American people.

    http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-digbrflets-this-04281.artapr28,0,5942075.story

    Lets move on to climate change, the continuing non problem that billionaires keep trying to make even more money on. Here is some facts: When the last ice age ended the temperature increased by 12° C in 10 years without man raising CO2 (The SUV wasn’t even invented yet!), Even the IPCC modelers are saying that there will be 30 to 50 years of cooling in the coming decades, the discredited Dr. Phil Jones admits their has been no significant warming in the last 15 years, The lead author on Glaciers for the IPCC’s AR4 report admitted that he knew the 2035 date for Himalayan glaciers was wildly wrong but included it anyway because he wanted to force politicians to come around to his political views. Then there was all the dodgy references in the AR4 report, such as an article in a climbing magazine or a report on the Amazon done by a journalist not a scientist and it doesn’t even state what the IPCC claims it states. Then there is the fact that Global Sea Ice has been increasing since Satellites started measuring it back in the 80’s, and the reason for the big drop in Arctic sea ice in 2007 was due to wind not temperature. However we can’t let the inconvenient fact that the warming seen between 1975 and 2000 was not unprecedented nor the highest ever stop the regulation train, nope we got to line Big Oil’s pockets. You do realize that the CRU in England was founded in 1972 by Shell Oil, BP and the Rockefeller Foundation which gets it’s money from it’s shares in Exxon? You also must realize that Shell, BP and Exxon also funded the CRU into the 2000’s ? You also must realize that the CO2 that those companies now must buy to use in their Enhanced Oil Recovery Systems will now be paid for by governments to take it off other peoples hands? Neat trick that, being able to get governments to turn something you have to buy now to use into something they will pay you to use to extract more Oil. Also you must know that George Soros, that great liberal, gets most of his money from Oil Stocks. He has huge investments in Conocco-Phillips, Petrobras (The Brazilian oil company that Obama gave money to so they could do offshore drilling) and a Canadian Oil Sands company. Matter of fact he bought the Canadian Oil Sands company during Climategate and the run up to Copenhagen. Hmm maybe George knows that this whole Carbon Credits thing is nothing but a scam. I can see where he would come to that conclusion since the European Carbon Credit Market was found to be over 80% fraud and the only ones benefiting from it was Big Oil, Bankers and Organized Crime.

    Trying to blame the GOP for the recession because they lessened the “Financial Oversight” is rich since it as the Dems that passed the laws that forced Fanny and Freddie (As well as other such lenders as Countrywide) to give out those bad loans, while at the same time getting their own sweetheart deals. But hey who needs the facts when you can tar someone else for your own mess.

    On immigration GW Bush screwed the pooch but then again so did Clinton and his father. They both also didn’t stop the flood of illegals and secure the border as they are mandated to do by the Constitution.

    The Republicans party will continue turned inward to their old fashion obstructionist party (and their Confederacy appreciation roots) because they continue to allow a small portions (but very loud portion) of their party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” to rule their party. I will admit that this fringe is very good at playing “Follow the Leader” by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the Blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots (they have already acted against doctors that perform abortions). The Birthers and the Tea party crowd think they can scare, intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The world is complicated and people like Hamilton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt believed that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now it’s about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is tragic that the ranks are filled with too many empty suits and the crazy Birthers who have not learned that the way our courts work is that you get a competent lawyer, verifiable facts and present them to a judge, if the facts are real and not half baked internet lies, then, and only then, do you proceed to trial. The Birthers seem to be having a problem with their so called “facts”. Let’s face it no one will take the Birthers seriously until they win a case, but until then, you will continue to appear dumb, crazy or racist, or maybe all three. I heard that Orly Taitz now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC), she wants to re-establish a family values party, that’s like saying that the Catholic Church cares about the welling being of children in their care, too late for that.

    Now this whole section is where you go completely into fantasy land. First of all the GOP doesn’t have the “Confederacy Appreciation Roots” the Dems do. Again I understand you don’t have the firmest grasp on history and facts, but this isn’t rocket science. You do realize that it was the Southern Dems that formed the Confederacy? You do realize at that it was Southern Dems in the 60’s that opposed the Civil rights act and the only reason it passed was due to the GOP? You do realize that the only confirmed KKK member in the Congress is a Dem?

    Byrd joined the Ku Klux Klan when he was 24 in 1942. His local chapter unanimously elected him the top officer of their unit.[8]
    According to Byrd, a Klan official told him, “You have a talent for leadership, Bob… The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation.” Byrd later recalled, “suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did.”[8] Byrd held the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops.[8]

    In 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo:[10]

    I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.

     
    — Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944, [8][11]

    When running for the United States House of Representatives in 1952, he announced “After about a year, I became disinterested, quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in the organization. During the nine years that have followed, I have never been interested in the Klan.” He said he had joined the Klan because he felt it offered excitement and was anti-communist.[8] However, in 1946 or 1947 he wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, “The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation.”[12]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Ku_Klux_Klan

    Then you got a problem separating Republicans from Libertarians and Independents examples of this are Beck is a Libertarian and O’Reilly is an Independent, but since they don’t drink the far left Kool Aid they must be Republicans. Then you got the mistaken impression that the people in the tea party are all Republicans. Newsflash the tea party is made up of Republicans, Independents and GASP Democrats. The object of the Tea party is to get rid of all of the longtime Politicians in Washington, Democrat and Republican. Then you are going to lecture someone who is ex military about what most ex military do, well here is another newsflash ya: Most ex military hold a lot of the same views I do and guess what I don’t belong to a militia nor do I go running around playing commando and we know that people keep trying to find grey in a black and white situation like this and that is the point. You see an ILLEGAL Immigrant is a Criminal by US law period, there is no Grey involved. All this law does is let the Cops in Arizona deal with a Criminal that paid another Criminal $2500 per person to smuggle them into the US and if the first Criminal doesn’t have $2500 per person he pays his/her and or his/her families way by smuggling drugs in for the second Criminal. See no Grey. Then we got your warped view on Hamilton, Lincoln and Roosevelt (if you are talking Teddy). They didn’t believe that it was the Governments job to increase social mobility, they believed it was the governments job to protect the people from being taken advantage of. You want to increase your social mobility you do it on your own dime not someone else’s. Quit trying to turn Lincoln, Hamilton and TR into Socialists because they weren’t but what you described is.

    You want to point out the Tax increase that Reagan agreed to but you didn’t mention that the condition for that agreement was that the Dem controlled congress would reduce spending. You also didn’t mention that one week after Reagan signed TEFRA the Dem controlled Congress passed a supplemental Spending bill over Reagan’s veto. You also didn’t mention that Reagan had the largest Tax Cut in US history by reducing the rates from over 70% to 28% and when you take that into account the raise by TEFRA still shows a net decrease in Taxs under Reagan. So why don’t you bring up the whole story of how Reagan raised those taxes but against the earlier Tax Cuts it was still a net decrease and how the Dems overrode the Reagan Veto instead of keeping their agreement, thus increasing that spending you were crying about? Oh wait forgot can’t tell the facts since it shows the Dems in a bad light. Then you have this whole Birther thing going, are you perhaps concerned that the Birthers are right and your messiah might not be eligible? Or could it possibly be that you don’t understand that you can oppose Obama’s socialist policies and not be Birther? You also bring up supposed violence by the Tea Partiers, and then you also talk about Internent lies and gettting a lawyer and going to court. Well guess what the only violence that has been shown and have been taken to court was not about Tea partiers but against SEIU Goons, trying to suppress the people because they don’t support Obamacare.

    Then you try and paint every republican with the same brush because of Sanchez and every Catholic as a pedophile becasue of those priests. You do now that shows that you are nothing but a bigot? Hey using your standards that means that all Dems are adulterating killers of young women since JFK cheated on Jaquie and Teddy killed Mary Jo.

    Word of advice: quit reading HuffPo and the NYT and read up on whats really going on and not what the MSM wants you to hear. Matter of fact when it comes to accuracy someone on the left tried to scam the political blogs to show how inaccurate they are and how they do not fact check. Turns out the only one that fell for the scam was the New York Times, the blogs checked the facts and found the scam, the Times didn’t. Oh and BTW I’m a registered Independent not a Republican because I do not agree with all GOP policies.

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